Curse

Illuminus · Apr 10, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Cracked Armor, as a condition? I'm sorry, but thats kind of silly... monks will be able to repair armour with condition removal spell now

? I really hope its a hex effect instead of a condition. It just doesn't make sense since all current conditions effect the human body.

Abnaxus · Apr 10, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Renegade26

Aneurysm 10e 1c 20r - Spell. Target foe regains all Energy. For each point of energy gained in this way, that foe takes 1 damage. Dom Magic

Awful name, it's a severe disease, which can cause death, what will they introduce in GW2? Cancer, AIDS, trombosys?

Please remove such references to real life diseases in a videogame, these aren't things to joke about.

Trouveur · Apr 10, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Mass Hexing = Necro's Job
AoE damage = Elementalist's Job

No.

Elementalist's job = AoE Direct damage.

Necro's job = minions, life leech, support with blood spells, dispel enchantments, Paragons's shutdown, AoE empathy and even interrupt...

Currently necro can do perfectly well its roles but also mesmers's role.

Giving Mesmer some AoE conditional damage or AoE hexes could help him without denaturing the class.

If a class is turning into another since NF, it is the necro, not the mesmer.

Theus · Apr 10, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Abnaxus

Awful name, it's a severe disease, which can cause death, what will they introduce in GW2? Cancer, AIDS, trombosys?

Please remove such references to real life diseases in a videogame, these aren't things to joke about.

Everyone has AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS!
Everyone has AIDS!

And so this is the end of our story
And everyone is dead from AIDS
It took from me my best friend
My only true pal
My only bright star (he died of AIDS)

Well I'm gonna march on Washington
Lead the fight and charge the brigades
There's a hero inside of all of us
I'll make them see everyone has AIDS

My father (AIDS!)
My sister (AIDS!)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend (AIDS AIDS AIDS!)
The gays and the straights
And the white and the spades

Everyone has AIDS!
My grandma and my dog 'ol blue (AIDS AIDS AIDS)
The pope has got it and so do you (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
C'mon everybody we got quilting to do (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
We gotta break down these baricades, everyone has
AIDS! x 20

Thank you!I'll be here all night!

Darth Kukulkan · Apr 10, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Elementalist's job = AoE Direct damage.

LMAO I think you never played an ele

Water is not here for a massive aoe damage... and Air AIR MAN AIR YOU KNOW WHAT AIR IS ? where do you see aoe damage in the air element ? N O W H E R E -_- Ele's job is to do the other's job : we can heal, we can play as sins, we can do everything with our large energy pool and earth protection if need be

Anna Ryan · Apr 10, 2007, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Psst mate, no AoE in air magic ?

Chain Lightning, Invoke Lightning

and, no AoE in water magic ?

Deep Freeze, Ice spikes ^^

and that are just those I recall from my head now
(and yes I have an ele, infact it's my main ^^)

clawofcrimson · Apr 10, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18

these skills are OBVIOUSLY not the entire list of skills that will be in GW:en.. we already know there are more skills coming...

not to mention the 'end result' will be completely different than the 'beta' version... so I dont know what everyone is complaining about.

The Great Al · Apr 10, 2007, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Anna Ryan

Psst mate, no AoE in air magic ?

Chain Lightning, Invoke Lightning

and, no AoE in water magic ?

Deep Freeze, Ice spikes ^^

and that are just those I recall from my head now
(and yes I have an ele, infact it's my main ^^)

Just because a line has 1-2 AoE spells doesn't mean it's for AoE. If you want mass AoE damage, you use the fire line. Water line for some crowd control, deep freeze + maelstrom is a nice combo but costs a ton of energy.

Anna Ryan · Apr 10, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

*sigh* when using water snare I use Elemental Attunement and Water Attunement, making every water skill cost nearly 0 energy

so there goes your theory for that.
That being said, why not wait with a discussion like this untill GW:EN is released .

The Ernada · Apr 10, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by Bankai

Oh, please. This is absolute BS. Tell me, why would someone bring this skill?

That's right. People will only bring this spell as soon as there's a metagame with really imbalanced paragons.

Well the problem is that Cacophany is both overpowered and completely useless. It certainly is overpowered against anyone using shouts. It can be kept constantly on one character shutting him down effectively. But any other time it's completely useless.

There's far too many skills and mechanics that are "all or nothing" Shouts can't be stripped and are possibly too good because of that, but creating a skill like Cacophany that totally destroys it is bad design.

There should be more shout counters that have other uses as well but don't totally destroy shout users instead of an "all or nothing" skill like Cacophany. Make better shout counters, Anet, instead of one trick heavy handed counters.

Former Ruling · Apr 13, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Umm....Before you talk about Cacophany...we already have "Vocal Minority" that completely makes you not able to cast them..instead of just taking dmg for it. It has 5 more rehcarge, but is AoE spread and casts faster.

ensoriki · Apr 13, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

That Mesmer hex

Anerusym or whatever
PLeaste let it be elite I dont want some

E denial mesmer super spiking because of fast casting

energy tap, energy surge, energy burn, anerwhatever. Good lord that would suck.

That assassin deadly arts dual.....Thats a spell right if it is omfg nice.
Dancing daggers mantis touch entangling asp, Signet of toxic shock, Thingy, Impale....kinda lengthy tho, but so was BOA.

Cacophany, warrior and Paragon hurting only, warriors dont have that many shouts so not a big deal, and Paragons have little skills which means even if they have a lot of shouts its not actually a lot -_-.

I wonder how these things will scale

IF Assassins thirst (lol I remembered) Scales nicely to maybe steal 35 at 12 and 55 at 16 I'd be happy as long as it actually hits twice.

XvArchonvX · Apr 13, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Hmm...I bet a B/P group with a Rt/Me using [skill]Wailing Weapon[/skill] with Inadequacy could really do some damage, especially if the rit was bringing Splinter Weapon as well.

Also, I almost thought that Winter's Embrace might be a good snare for a W/E, but I think this depends on wether you will still be snared if your target's hex gets removed. If the snare effect doesn't come off you when the hex is taken off your foe, then this is worthless, but if not, there might be some good potential for a good KD build...

Former Ruling · Apr 14, 2007, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Depending on how high it scales, Aneurysm seems like a cool spell. As long as it scales to 4-5 it can be quite dangerous (5 would actually be insane...skip that).

Omega X · Apr 14, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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Originally Posted by Abnaxus

Awful name, it's a severe disease, which can cause death, what will they introduce in GW2? Cancer, AIDS, trombosys?

Please remove such references to real life diseases in a videogame, these aren't things to joke about.

An Aneurysm is not a disease! Its the bursting of a weakened blood vessel and can be properly treated if caught in time. And who said that the skill represented a joke?

Climb down from the clouds once in a while.

Kool Pajamas · Apr 14, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Depending on how high it scales, Aneurysm seems like a cool spell. As long as it scales to 4-5 it can be quite dangerous (5 would actually be insane...skip that).

Imagine against an ele with no energy. 4 x ~90 = 360 damage....ouch

Now if its a max of 3 and the ele has a somewhat low max energy of ~70
3 x 70 = 210 damage

That skill may hurt O_O

Renegade26 · Apr 14, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Assassin's Thirst 5e 8r - Dual Attack. Must follow an off-hand attack. If this attack hits, you steal 14 Health. Deadly Arts

That is a dual attack that needs to follow an off-hand attack. Just like every other dual attack.

prism2525 · Apr 14, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43

As an ele primary myself i rarely let my energy go as low as to 10 or 20 except in pve where currently there isn't this skill and if in GW:EN there will be, I can prepare and take the mesmer down first (as I always do anyway).

About Assassin's thirst, does the life steal occur twice or more if you double strike/dual?

Renegade26 · Apr 14, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Probly the same way as Shattering Assualt, which I dont know about.